Sunday, 4 March 2018

RICHARD TAYLOR AND JONATHAN MILLER, NEW BEGINNINGS - FALSE TEACHER AND FRIEND AND PROMOTER OF BENNY HINN!

"And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you."
(2 Peter 2:2-3)

Jonathan Miller with Benny Hinn on his "This Is Your Day" in 2016.


INTRODUCTION

Following on from 'Revive 2018' with Bishop Ceirion Dewar, the subject of my last article (http://watchman4wales.blogspot.co.uk/2018/02/richard-taylor-and-bishop-ceirion-dewar.html), Richard Taylor's next trumpeted event at his New Beginnings Church in Merthyr Tydfil is the arrival of Jonathan and Cristina Miller for "a special weekend of services," March 17-18. These are the founders and Lead Pastors of New Beginnings Healing Center in Orlando, Florida, who Mr. Taylor has jubilantly joined forces with. 

Who a man's best mates and mentors are, those who he is well-pleased to partner with and share a platform with, sheds much light on where that man is at. The very first article that appeared on this site back in May 2013 highlighted concerns that  Richard Taylor's mentor at the time of the so-called "Welsh Outpouring" was the heretical Tommy Tenney, who teaches that God has moved on from the Bible and we have to chase after where He is now! (Obviously Cwmbran at that moment in time!) But let's fast forward to the present, and cast a careful eye on who the counterfeit revivalist Richard Taylor's best buddy is now. It is very relevant and revealing, as we shall see, to check out the ambitious guy who somehow saw fit to appoint a man disqualified from the pulpit as the European Director of "the NBC family" - a burgeoning network to which we should most carefully note that Mr. Miller "gives apostolic oversight," in more than a hint of a New Apostolic Reformation structure of governance.



JONATHAN MILLER, BENNY HINN AND THE "SEED-FAITH" DECEPTION

"A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump."
(Galatians 5:9)

Sadly, Jonathan Miller has been weighed and found wanting. Like all false teachers, Mr. Miller says much that is true. But like all false teachers, he laces that which is true with that which is not. Which makes him a dangerous deceiver, a shaker and server of a deadly spiritual cocktail. It only takes a drop of cyanide to poison the whole glass, just a pinch of leaven to work its way right through the batch. Once introduced, the whole is unavoidably and irrevocably affected. God hates the mixing of truth with untruth, which is what we are confronted with absolutely everywhere in the Church today, and the "Word of Faith" (or simply "Word-Faith") movement - with which Jonathan Miller is aligned and whose aberrant theology he regurgitates - is a classic case of such a fleshly fusion.

We will here examine some of Miller's deeply erroneous teachings, starting our investigation with perhaps the most glaring pointer to his "Word of Faith/Prosperity gospel" proclivities and dearth of discernment: his long and deep friendship with and endorsement and promotion of Benny Hinn, one of the worst of the worst of the host of charlatans masquerading as ministers of the Lord in the world today. I do not propose to go into detail here about Benny Hinn's utter falseness, for this has been extremely well documented in a multitude of places on the internet, and the overwhelming evidence is easily accessed at the click of a mouse. (You can find a catalogue of well over a hundred such articles here: http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/bhinn.html) 
Rather, I want to highlight Miller's significant accord with Hinn, which it would be a massive mistake to turn a blind eye to. As Holy Writ with all the unanswerable divine wisdom of its Author asks:

 "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"
(Amos 3:3)

Miller walks with Hinn, who is welcomed at his church. His awe of and entanglement with Hinn goes back a good many years. They are agreed, and this harmony in itself decisively demonstrates that he is an equally renegade representative of the Faith. Miller, guesting in 2016 on Hinn's 'This Is Your Day' TV programme, revealed conclusively his belief not only in Hinn's "ministry" but in the grotesque "seed-faith" give-to-get scam dreamed up by that notorious money-raker and fake, Oral Roberts, urging gullible viewers to pour their dollars into Hinn's already very considerable coffers. I will transcribe here some of that very enlightening broadcast entitled 'Miracles of Multiplication!' (which in itself gives a good idea of what is afoot!); anyone who so wishes can watch the whole unseemly half-hour episode here:


This is the sycophantic and deluded Miller, urging the viewers to follow his example and "plant a seed" (i.e. deposit a significant sum of money) into Hinn's "fertile soil" for a guaranteed tenfold increase:

"Many people will be watching today that are facing a specific need of fifty thousand dollars... My challenge to you is do you have the tithe, ten per cent of that amount? Will you step out in faith today... and give God [actually Benny Hinn] a tithe of five thousand dollars seed?... The anointing is here... and I declare to you in not many days from now it's going to come back to you, the full amount... but... you've got to give Him [actually Hinn] something to work with and you've got to give Him [Hinn] something to move on. I know there's many of you watching today facing a ten thousand dollar need, some of you are facing a five thousand dollar need. And I want to take a moment to tell you that I have tested and proven the soil of this ministry. This is fertile soil. Good ground. Good soil. There are some grounds that yield a little bit of increase and there are some that yield multiplied increase, and this field of this ministry is a field that I've proven time and time again. I have never sown a seed into this ministry and not seen God return it back to me, even more than what I could expect... There's something about this ministry, and it is because of what you [addressing Hinn] preach."

We only need to apply some basic common sense to determine the utter fallacy of this premise. If it was for real, let's say someone did exactly as Miller urges and indeed got a $50,000 return for his $5,000 stake. He could then invest that $50,000 in Hinn's "fertile soil" and get a whopping half a million dollars back, as God doesn't fail to deliver, does He? Then, with only a third seeding, he'd reap no less than five million. Five million then yields fifty million, fifty million spawns five hundred million, and just one more investment in the bank (sorry, ministry) of Benny Hinn, and you're a billionaire five times over!!!

Truth of the matter? This "seeding" is effectively spinning a spiritual roulette wheel, and infinitely more likely to get you much further into monetary trouble rather than out of it. The only guys it ever works for, the only high-fliers with the fancy mansions and the flashy cars parked up front are those who teach this lie of how to use God for gain; everyone who heeds their call to greed will almost certainly continue to park their average car outside the church, and drive it back home to their average house containing average possessions. And what is wrong with average things? Aren't we supposed to build up our treasures in Heaven, not here on Earth?

WE ARE PROMISED PROSPERITY ONLY IN HIS GRACE, NOT IN OUR PURSE!

God is no man's debtor, and sowing a Biblical seed has nothing whatsoever to do with money; it is the sharing of the blessed hope of salvation unto eternal life through belief in the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ. God forbid that we re-define it as anything else. If we, like Miller, dare to do so, it has to be asked, "What master are we serving?" As the Word avers: 

"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; 
or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. 
Ye cannot serve God and mammon."
(Matthew 6:24)

GIVING AS TAUGHT BY THE BIBLE EXPECTS NOTHING IN RETURN. GIVING AS TAUGHT BY JONATHAN MILLER AND HIS MERCENARY ILK ON THE OTHER HAND EXPECTS A MULTIPLICATION OF ONE'S MONEY IN RETURN, AND IS AN UTTER ABOMINATION. HAVE THESE PEOPLE NEVER READ, "THOU SHALT NOT TEMPT THE LORD THY GOD?" (Matthew 4:7 and Luke 4:12)

Hinn's 'This Is Your Day' broadcasts every weekday on TBN, the biggest mouthpiece for "Word of Faith/Prosperity gospel" heresy on the planet. Unsurprisingly, we find that his bosom buddy Miller also airs on TBN, not only guesting on the main USA channel's programmes but also having his very own 'New Beginnings' slot on TBN Salsa, their English language Hispanic network launched in 2015. Miller's increasing exposure on the Total Blasphemy Network demonstrates that he is a man well trusted by them to deliver their false gospel of "name-it-and-claim-it" health and wealth.

With this firmly in mind, let's now look at a couple of recent (2017) articles written by Mr. Miller, containing teachings that clearly underscore his alignment with the heretical, even blasphemous "Word of Faith" brand of alternative "Christianity."



JONATHAN MILLER AND "POSITIVE/NEGATIVE CONFESSION"

Here is Miller teaching the doctrine of demons commonly known as Positive/Negative Confession:

"Have you ever considered your words to be a powerful force? When I think of a powerful force, I envision that nothing is able to stand in its way. Did you know that God has given us that kind of a powerful force and He's put it in our mouths in the form of words? We can either use those words to release God's will and purpose upon this earth; or, we can use them to bring destruction upon our own lives."
('Your Words Are A Powerful Force' - Jonathan Miller, October 3, 2017)

Friends, this is heresy. Rank heresy. The idea that words in themselves are a force having the power to alter reality has nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity, and everything to do with an occultic mindset. Jonathan Miller is here teaching witchcraft! Period. And in making his apostate argument, he breathtakingly twists a Scripture to attribute a power to mere mortals that the Almighty alone possesses:

"Isaiah 55:11 says, "So shall my word be that goes forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." The word of the Lord comes to earth and is established ONLY when the redeemed of the Lord "say so!" 
In other words, we need to say a thing."

So that there's no misunderstanding of this divine ability that he attributes to us, Miller goes on to assert:

"Life and death are in the power of our tongues. It is up to us to speak "life" in every situation. When we do, Isaiah 55:11 reminds us that the word which goes forth out of our mouths will not return void. It will accomplish what He pleases. It will prosper where it is sent." 

No, Mr. Miller, it's not WE who speak to accomplish what the Lord pleases. It's not WE who send words which will not return void. It's God Himself! You re-write His holy Word to teach a lie! He has no need whatsoever of any mere man to "release" His will and purpose. How dare you to declare that the word of the Lord is only established when we humans say so? He is Sovereign Lord of all creation! The word comes out of HIS mouth, not ours! You attempt to make us equal to the Most High, and isn't that the selfsame desire that led to Satan's fall? (Ref. Isaiah 14:12-14). Can you not see, Mr. Miller, the most terrible seriousness of your crass, indeed blasphemous claim?


JONATHAN MILLER AND "SPEAKING HEALING"

"You may be sick, but don't stop speaking you are healed!"
(Jonathan Miller, 'Never Stop Speaking' - 29/5/17)

This is the extremely foolish, indeed downright dangerous kind of "denial" teaching from the pulpit that causes diabetics to stop taking their insulin, asthmatics to throw away their inhalers, cancer sufferers to cease their radio- and chemo-therapy and people not to phone for an ambulance when they've had a stroke or are having a coronary. This is the kind of "Positive Confession" folly that results not in healing but in continued and worsening health problems that can even lead to the death of individuals who fall victim to this dreadful deception.

As we noted above, to Mr. Miller words are a force. "Remember," he says, "nothing can stand in the way of a powerful force. Just speak the Word!" "Stop worrying about all the obstacles that seemingly stand in the way of God's promises!" he declares. (Ref. 'Your Words Are A Powerful Force.') Thing is, He never promised us physical healing this side of eternity; He promised us only spiritual healing upon our acceptance of His Son as Lord and Saviour. In this life the believer is subject to exactly the same health issues as everybody else. Our spirit may be redeemed, but it still inhabits a body of fallen flesh and blood and no amount of speaking that we are healed when we are sick is going to change things one iota. 

"Word of Faith" adherents preach that physical healing is our right. It is not. Did the Lord remove Paul's thorn? Nope. It actually had a purpose in His plan for the Apostle's life and ministry. Did Paul tell Trophimus to speak his healing and accompany him? Nope. He left him at Miletum, still sick and unable to travel. (2 Timothy 4:20). In Timothy's frequent infirmities, did Paul advise him to use words to effect healing? Nope. He told him to take a little wine for his stomach's sake. (1 Timothy 5:23). Our words cannot change the reality of any given situation, for we do not have the ability that only the Lord God of creation possesses. We cannot by-pass God, making ourselves "little gods" with god-like powers. To attempt to do so is rebellion to His Sovereignty over all things. And rebellion is as witchcraft, wherein, as we have noted, lies this Bible-defying belief in words as a force.

Jonathan Miller is set on putting the word spoken out of our own mouths on a par with the Word of God Himself. Consider this quote by one Nuno Pedro, the "Prosperity Gospel" pastor of Charisma, a megachurch in Paris, France:

"He [God] instructs us to put His Word in our heart and in our mouth, so that by proclaiming it with faith, we can produce the same results as He! 
Same results as God, nothing less!"
('31 Days To Create Your World' - Nuno Pedro, 2005)

These guys are all on the same warped wavelength. No surprise then to find that Jonathan Miller has guested at Charisma, as indeed have many others of his ilk like Tommy Tenney (what a coincidence!), Creflo Dollar, T.D.Jakes, Casey Treat, Morris Cerullo, Kim Clement, Juanita Bynum, Mike Murdoch, Jesse Duplantis, Myles Munroe, Steve Munsey... even Wales' own WoF frontman - Ray Bevan! If you can stomach it, here is a video of Jonathan Miller performing (I use that word very deliberately) at Charisma, whipping the crowd up into a frenzy with a totally manic, screaming exhibition of unashamed circus showmanship:




CONCLUSION

All these folks speak (or scream!) about Jesus and the Gospel. Question is, What Jesus? What Gospel? Jonathan Miller avers that, "The only thing we really have to worry about is our mouths speaking the wrong things." (Ref. 'Never Stop Speaking.') Wrong, Mr Miller. The thing we should be absolutely concerning ourselves about is not "speaking the wrong things," but whether we and those teachers we might be heeding have the bona fide Jesus and the bona fide Gospel! Is the faith that we and they are proclaiming the unerring, uncompromising Faith that was once and for all time delivered? (Jude v.3). Or is it a faith subtly re-defined and re-delivered to itching ears?

FRIENDS, TAKE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT FACE VALUE. TEST EVERYTHING THAT ANY PREACHER UTTERS AGAINST THE WATERTIGHT WORD OF GOD. REMEMBER ALWAYS:

"There were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies."
(2 Peter 2:1)


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66 comments:

  1. Thank you for this Rob. It is absolutely disgraceful how this Millar guy has deliberately perverted Gods words with reference to Isaiah 55 v 11. serious blasphemy, including all the other things. I cannot for the life of me understand how people continue to follow these false teachings, all I can discern is that the congregations love to be deceived, and pride stops them from admitting they are wrong in following false doctrines,they must know that something is not right?, but would prefer to be in ignorance, refusing to address “The herd of elephants running rampant in the room”.


    This is the True meaning and word of the LORD, Isaiah 55 v 8-13.
    For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
    neither are your ways my ways,”
    declares the Lord.
    9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
    so are my ways higher than your ways
    and my thoughts than your thoughts.
    10 As the rain and the snow
    come down from heaven,
    and do not return to it
    without watering the earth
    and making it bud and flourish,
    so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,
    11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth:
    It will not return to me empty,
    but will accomplish what I desire
    and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.
    12 You will go out in joy
    and be led forth in peace;
    the mountains and hills
    will burst into song before you,
    and all the trees of the field
    will clap their hands.
    13 Instead of the thornbush will grow the juniper,
    and instead of briers the myrtle will grow.
    This will be for the Lord’s renown,
    for an everlasting sign,
    that will endure forever.” ....Beautiful The words of the Lord Not Man.

    @cafe Meet

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    1. Many thanks for this comment, my good friend!

      One thing is crystal clear: men like Jonathan Miller can have absolutely no fear of the Lord! For if they did, they could not possibly so blasphemously twist His holy Word, to deliver such an occultic teaching as he has here!

      Isaiah 55 wondrously speaks of the absolutely awesome majesty of our infinitely great God, and what HIS word accomplishes. Beautiful words of Truth indeed!

      Mr. Miller and his ilk may have no fear of the Lord now, but one day they will, when they quake before the Throne. It is to be hoped for their own sake and the sake of those who in blind folly follow them, that they will humbly repent before that Day of Reckoning comes!

      As it is written:
      "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding." (Proverbs 9:10)

      With very best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  2. Well done, Rob! This is a well researched and brilliantly worded piece of truth!

    It is extremely sad that gullible people who would proclaim their fervent Christian walk with the Lord can be so naïve as to fall for the lies of the Word-Faith con artists! Unfortunately these charlatans have rich pickings in the Word-Faith churches of South Wales, where they are adamant that people like Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer and Bill Johnson etc., are God's anointed and not to be questioned or challenged! "Touch not God's anointed," is the phrase taken out of context, which is murmured in an almost superstitious manner!

    It is extremely difficult for the deceived to perceive and discern that they are in deception, particularly as they have been soundly indoctrinated with Biblical verses taken out of context. When people are exhilarated during times of dynamic worship, uplifting the name of Jesus and hearing victorious sermons, how can they be deceived? After all, the pastor knows what he's doing, doesn't he? If anyone speaks negatively about the doctrine being false then they have a critical spirit, don't they?

    The people of these churches in New Beginnings, Merthyr Tydfil; Vine Christian Centre, Bridgend; City Church & All Nations, Cardiff and King's Church, Newport to name a few, need to question what is Sound Doctrine and search their hearts to know if they really want to know The Truth and The Biblical Truth Only! It is amazing that when they supposedly hear God's Voice speaking to them, He never warns them about their church and doctrine! One has to wonder, Who indeed are they listening to?!

    Matthew 7: 13-14


    13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
    14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

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    1. Hi, and many thanks for your support, and for sharing your most pertinent observations!

      Even when the proof of their heroes' apostasy is presented to them, so many people just shut their eyes and close their ears and bury their heads in the Laodicean sand. To them, it is the one presenting the proof who is the one to be castigated, in such ways as you have mentioned, while they keep the peddlers of falsehood on lofty pedestals. It is, of course, the way that it has always been. The Gospel is a sharp, two-edged sword! There is a broad way, and there is a narrow way; too many mistake the broad for the narrow, and the tragedy is that they don't want to be told of their terrible error; they prefer the delusion to the Truth. It's the time of the great Falling Away, without a shadow of doubt, when it is the wrong voices that are the loudest, and the ones most heeded!

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  3. Oh my word, breath taking cutting edge information here again Rob.
    Your title says
    ‘’RICHARD TAYLOR AND JONATHAN MILLER, NEW BEGINNINGS - FALSE TEACHER AND FRIEND AND PROMOTER OF BENNY HINN!’’

    Come come now, you use the words ‘’FALSE TEACHER’’, should the words be WITCH HUNT by the witch hunter general and his small band of supporters?

    RICHARD TAYLOR AND JONATHAN MILLER, NEW BEGINNINGS – MORE GOSSIP BY WITCH HUNTER GENERAL

    It’s a fine balance not to become nothing more than what would appear to be a campaign of hate.

    Anyway all this is old news Rob

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    1. Hi, and thanks for your comment and graceful, reasoned argument!

      I never cease to marvel how, when people write to me in such a manner, they so completely fail to see that it is the condition of their own hearts which they are revealing.

      Anyway, I thank you for bringing me the strengthening in the Lord that such things always do, for in the receipt of such missives, I'm much encouraged that I must be doing at least something right!

      Best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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    2. Those involved in a Witch Hunt sent people to be burned at the stake.

      The purpose of this blog is to save and pull people FROM the FLAMES!!

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    3. Thank you, my friend, for this God-given response!

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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    4. Rob,
      I am so glad that your blog is not following the Wordly, fleshly, muses of the so called “Cutting Edge,” machinations of fallen man. Staying faithful to Gods Word is more important than Wordly content/ideas, All is Vanity.The only Cutting edge we need is the Sword of the Spirit, and the one who weilds it. So will it be on his glorious return.
      This blog helps people discern the truth, the age old battle between good and evil rages on, nothing new under the Sun. But ALL things new under the Son, Praise his a Name.
      Revelation 1:16

      16 In his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth came a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength.
      Best Wishes in Him
      @cafe meet

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    5. Thank you again, my good friend!

      Some would attempt to silence me, and also those who support this work - I wonder why!

      "The only cutting edge we need is the Sword of the Spirit, and the one who wields it. So will it be on his glorious return!" Amen, and again Amen!

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  4. The Voice Of Reason7 March 2018 at 05:55

    I think the guy who called you a "Witch Hunter" is spot on Rob, and you really need to drop this new regime of yours.

    It was only a few months ago that you were stating that you really did not want to write any more about Richard Taylor, but now that is all you seem to want to do.

    As the guy said, you have a very small following of "anonymous" backers (how sad is that when they hide away in darkness), and they seem to give you this new resolve to attack RT.

    What are you doing in the kingdom Rob, please tell us?

    You do not go to church, have very little in way of Christian fellowship, and seem to offer very little else except for this blog full of castigations and slurs over fellow Christians.

    You need to repent Rob, and very soon as well.

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    1. So you're "The Voice of Reason," huh? Sadly, I look in vain for any reasoning whatsoever being presented in your comment, just mocking double-standards!

      In respect of calling me a Witch Hunter," please refer to the God-given response to that one, as above!

      You want me to repent for speaking the truth? The truth about Richard Taylor, Ceirion Dewar, and Jonathan Miller?
      Truth is not something to be repented for, but presented as properly Scriptural contention for the Faith!

      What am I doing in the kingdom? Telling the truth about the apostasy in the Church, my friend! (And please remember that the Church is the people of God, not any mere man-made building - we can't GO to church, we ARE the Church).

      Do you really not realize the hypocrisy of accusing me of "castigations and slurs over fellow Christians" when you seem to have no problem whatsoever with castigating and slurring me, and similarly those who support my work on this blog? (How do you know how many there are, when I don't even know that myself?) You don't seem prepared to give your own name, do you? So who is it here then, who's hiding away in darkness?

      My thanks to you also for strengthening my resolve to continue to do that which I'm called to do. I think it well worth repeating here what I replied to a correspondent earlier:

      Even when the proof of their heroes' apostasy is presented to them, so many people just shut their eyes and close their ears and bury their heads in the Laodicean sand. To them, it is the one presenting the proof who is the one to be castigated, in such ways as you have mentioned, while they keep the peddlers of falsehood on lofty pedestals. It is, of course, the way that it has always been. The Gospel is a sharp, two-edged sword! There is a broad way, and there is a narrow way; too many mistake the broad for the narrow, and the tragedy is that they don't want to be told of their terrible error; they prefer the delusion to the Truth. It's the time of the great Falling Away, without a shadow of doubt, when it is the wrong voices that are the loudest, and the ones most heeded!

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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    2. The Voice Of Reason8 March 2018 at 02:42

      Thank you Rob for illustrating to us all your true nature.

      All friendly and "Christian" to your few followers with favourable comments.

      But quite hostile to anyone against your style of "ministry".

      Just for the record, why do you not go to church and have not gone for very many years now?

      Why do you just hide away behind your computer?

      Most Christians just love face to face fellowship but you seem to be the complete opposite.

      You seem to make out that there are no worthwhile churches to attend in South Wales - get a life Rob for there are many out there if you care to take the time to look.

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    3. Thank you, Voice of Unreason, for illustrating to us all your true nature!

      I repeat, we can't GO to church - we ARE the Church!

      I have a life, thank you, and I also enjoy good fellowship that you know nothing about. Hostility? You speak of yourself, my friend!

      In Him,
      Rob.

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  5. Hi Rob!
    I looked on your list of topics to the right but could find nothing on Billy Graham the rececently deceased world famous preacher.
    Do you think he was apostate or true man of God? Some say he was God sent others not. Is his legacy good? Like to know your thoughts.
    John.

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    1. Hi John!

      I haven't covered Billy Graham on the blog, as he's fallen a little outside my Wales-focused "catchment area" so to speak.

      However, I think it fair to say that I'm reasonably well- acquainted with Graham's ministry. I'd have to say that, however well he may have started out, and however genuine he may have been to begin with - God alone knows the truth of the matter! - he certainly went into grave error and ended up in full-blown apostasy, denying that Jesus was the only Way to salvation! Apart from this terrible denial of very clear Biblical teaching (John 14:6), Graham was for many, many years of an ecumenical persuasion, a great friend of the antichrist religion of Roman Catholicism, with its different Jesus and different Gospel. His legacy thus cannot be said to be a good one, for both of these schools of thought are very great enemies of the Cross, and a major betrayal of the Faith. I think it would be reasonable to say that the Baptists' embrace of Ecumenism owes much to Graham's influence in this area, a spiritual cancer which has spread to much of professing evangelical Christianity in its Reformation-overturning race back to Rome. Graham has effectively done incalculable harm to the cause of Christ.

      Graham was put on a lofty pedestal by the believing world and the secular world alike, with honours showered upon him. Sadly, I rather think that this Scripture applies:

      "Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets." (Luke 6:26).

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  6. Hi Rob,

    I had the unfortunate pleasure of living a stones throw away from the Australian offices of Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer and Mr du Plantis. I commend you for making known what some would like to remain hidden.

    One other observation, you seem to focus on apostates all in South Wales. Does this mean mid and North Wales remain apostate free?

    Trent

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    1. Hi Trent, and many thanks for your encouragement!

      My focus on South Wales is simply because the vast majority of the population of Wales lives in the south; also as that's where I've always lived myself, it's the area which is by far the most familiar to me and so where I guess my ear is closest to the ground! I've written several pieces on what's happening down in the west, and if something should come to my attention anywhere else, I'd be more than willing to encompass those things too. Much as I'd like to think otherwise, I've no doubt at all that it's not only in the south of the country where apostasy is presenting itself! If anyone has knowledge of something they'd like to bring to my attention, I'd be delighted to hear from them!
      Email: watchman4wales@yahoo.co.uk

      Thank you for your interest!
      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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    2. If South Wales is your main domain of interest, why have you gone outside of your area to include Cornwall and Lincolnshire amongst others Rob?

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    3. You know exactly why, so why ask?

      You also know that I've nothing further to say to you, Mr. Kelly!

      In Him,
      Rob.

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  7. carry on with the good work you only need to answer to God rob keep it up

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    1. Many thanks for this message of encouragement!

      It's just more of the same old, same old from my detractors; no reasoning, just ranting. I will indeed answer to our Almighty God for my works, as they will assuredly answer to Him for theirs.

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  8. Swimming test Rob, witches were dragged to the nearest body of water, stripped to their undergarments, bound and then tossed in to see if they would sink or float.
    ‘’But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God." Acts 5:39
    It is interesting that with all the campaigns against RT.
    Plus, the never ending river of gossip from the Afon Lwyd to feed this campaign.

    RT seems to be swimming – but not surprising because he has been baptised in both water and spirit.

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    1. Funnily enough, my own initials are RT, and I have been baptized in both water and Spirit! And campaigned against...

      Best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  9. Don't think you qualify because you have not endured the flow if gossip from the Avon Lwyd and the stream of hate.
    You are nothing more than the outlet. The question is of clean or dirty water.

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    1. You can think what you will of me. And everyone else is free to make their own decisions. I have no interest in pleasing men, only the One who died to save me; I will continue in His strength to contend for the Faith once delivered, not close my eyes and stop up my ears and zip up my lips to the faith re-defined and re-delivered to itching ears.

      Best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  10. Before you claim your martyr crown for the truth.
    Let me just say that some blogs have been off colour in language and images. Some may say even unchristian . Although yours appears more moderate in images and language...

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    1. No martyr's crown being claimed here, I can assure you! Just stating what any other believer should be able to state, providing he or she pays due regard to Jude v3! (And basically the multitude of other Scriptures speaking of deception and apostasy!)

      Best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  11. Is it an anglophone trying to butcher the language of heaven? Should be Afon Llwyd. We don't have a v in the alphabet this side of Offa's dyke.

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    1. Not a Welsh word, I know, but there's one "V" we're seeing far too many of on both sides of the border: vultures!

      Best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  12. How ironic or prophetic Rob to use Castell Coch as your image. A Gothic folly - not what it appears to be.

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    1. I just find it ironic that you have no problem at all in judging this RT to be false based on speculation, but have a very great difficulty in judging the other RT to be false based on evidence.

      In Him, who we will both answer to,
      Rob.

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  13. I find it ironic that A Red Dragon Flies over Wales, This Green and Pleasant Land! - yet 700, including Rob, have not bowed their knee to baal! and will continue to contend for the faith, once delivered.

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    1. Yes, the Red Dragon, a whole revelatory subject in itself! With the emblem of Satan held aloft on every side, it is no marvel how spiritually dark this country is! Nevertheless, our great and glorious God will always have His Remnant; as it is written:

      "What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?" (Romans 8:31)

      Thank you for voicing encouragement to all those who would continue to contend for the Faith once delivered in the face of the surrounding darkness.

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  14. Amen and Amen!!

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  15. Hi Rob,
    We all should know by now that the WoF prosperity movement is totally false, Yet time after time, you have provided evidence with direct quotes in the above articles and videos, from the likes of the pastors mentioned above eg Millar, Hinn etc, but even when evidence is provided, you/us are castigated as gossips? No we are not!! We strive for the truth so people will not get lead astray and perish through lack of knowledge. God does not want ANYONE to perish.
    But when these people ask their congregations to sow a financial seed and a big one(see above articles) then I am not going to ever shut my mouth against them. God is not a roulette wheel he is not a genie in a bottle. I pray people will wade through the swamp and get to the truth through prayer and searching scripture.
    This scripture is how we should act, the opposite of the Prosperity preachers.They should not be asking for money to get a bigger blessing. They should be selling all their possesions and giving to the poor. No one in the congregations should be in need.

    Matthew 6

    Giving to the Needy
    6 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

    2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

    Prayer
    5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
    God Bless
    @cafe meet

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    1. Hi! - I came across a very interesting piece earlier today, very much connected to this business of being branded "gossips" and the like for striving after Truth. Entitled 'Critical Christians,' it was written by Jonathan Miller on 19 February. I couldn't help wondering if it's in response to the 2 articles I'd already published on the New Beginnings operation in Merthyr Tydfil:

      URL: https://www.pastorjonathanmiller.com/single-post/2018/02/19/Critical-Christian"-by-Pastor-Jonathan-Miller

      (And this was before I'd written about Mr. Miller himself!)

      Quote from the article: "Critical Christians often judge others for the very thing they themselves are bound with in their own lives. They want to throw stones towards others for their sin; yet, refuse to look at their own sin. They, too, struggle with jealousy, bitterness, unforgiveness, insecurities, etc. They forget that Jesus said, “Judge not, that you be not judged!”

      Classic Word of Faith misinterpretation of Matthew 7:1, which speaks of judging hypocritically. He has no problem, however, in making a judgment himself that any Christian who "criticizes" is doing so out of refusal to recognize sin in their own lives and other negative things in their personality, and is actually not a Christian at all! Quite some judgement that, in my humble opinion, for someone who says we must not judge!! He can be critical himself, but that's OK. Can't people see the incredible double standards being shown here? By his own definition, he himself must then be unsaved!

      Sadly, more abuse of Scripture by this man, in a most unseemly effort to suppress any voice that might question errant theology, any testing of the spirits and exercising of discernment to warn of false teachers such as himself.

      Such men as this consider themselves to be untouchable; above question and free to (inappropriately) rebuke others while unable to accept (deserved) rebuke themselves. But the Lord allows them enough rope to hang themselves with their own words. Like Haman's scaffold, their plans can backfire rather badly on them!

      Best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  16. I thought the subject of this particular post was Jonathan Miller and sowing seeds for an earthly increase. I didn't realise it's 'pick on Rob day'. What's the criticism if the 'witchfinder' finds occult within the 'church' leading men to part with money for their own selfish multiplication. Issues at stake are the deception these people are practising, leading the flock astray, and pursuing church as a business not a self-sacrifice and the Christian life as repentance and sanctification. Our reward is in heaven, not this sinful earth.

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    1. Yes indeed, Ceri!

      There is a titanium refusal on the part of some people to accept very clear evidence of apostasy by quoting a false teacher verbatim. Some folks just seem to adore the delusion and despise the reality. But in their determined rejection of the proof presented to them, they are responsible and inexcusable for that decision before God. As it is written:

      "Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head. He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul." (Ezekiel 33:4-5)

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  17. The Voice Of Reason11 March 2018 at 01:55

    Rob, we could accept the "very clear evidence of apostasy by quoting a false teacher verbatim" if it came from someone in authority, or at least a Christian who went to fellowships and churches to find out what is happening, instead of hiding behind a computer and just criticising.
    You just hide away and criticise without offering anything positive.
    You say that "we are the church" so you do not have to go anywhere. But that is just a get out, and you know it.
    You have not had "real fellowship" for many years now, and if you want to deny this, please let me know so that I can attend and meet you and your few friends face to face.
    I know you do not attend any public fellowship in Merthyr, or indeed the Valleys, so please enlighten me and the rest of the doubters on this blog.
    You called me out for not offering my name, well it is Richard, so I am not one or your many anonymous posters.
    I would like to meet you and "your fellowship" Rob, so come on, please let me know.

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    1. Hi Richard!

      Thanks for giving me at least your first name. You know my own surname - what might yours be?

      I frankly find it simply incredible that you cannot accept evidence, unless presented by someone in a position of "authority" as you see it, or who "goes to church." Do you not accept the authority of the Word of God, by which Mr. Miller is proven in this article to be a false teacher? Unlike Mr. Miller, I don't believe that my word counts for anything at all; it's His Word, and His exclusively, that counts for everything!

      I'd be very interested indeed to know how you "know" so much about me. Now, if you'd first care to share with me your full name, and enlighten me as to the town where you live and where you personally fellowship, I'd then personally be quite prepared to meet with you at some neutral location here in Merthyr if you should so wish. You may then tell me face to face, in a public place, that I "hide away and criticize without offering anything positive."

      If, of course, your name is actually Neville Richard Stephens, then you will know already that I have no intention of meeting with you.

      Best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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    2. Oh how silly and infantile you are dear Rob.

      I have now posted as The Voice of Reason, as an Anonymous, as Richard, and as a moderator, and you have no idea who I am.
      You let any Tom, Dick or Harry post on this site, and even do not know which "anonymous" is posting some times.

      Kelly would have used the Blogger "Moderator" so it was clearly not him you silly man! But then again, if he responded you would not post it anyway, such are your deluded and biased standards.

      Nev has long since washed his hands of you so please do not drag him into your erring equations and poor mathematics. But refusing to meet him just illustrates again what poor "Christian" basics, ethics and theology you practice.

      Richard Taylor, Ray Bevan, Andrew Parsons, Nick Walters, Andrew Kelly, Les Bevan, Neville Stephens, Jonathan Miller, Clyde Thomas, Phil Lyndon-Jones etc all make themselves available in public places to meet them and not hide away behinds a computer as you do in your lonely solitude.

      Get a grip man! Did Jesus, Paul, Peter or any of the church hide away like you do? No of course not!

      If you cannot take meeting your many critics face to face, then stop stirring the fire! Get out of the kitchen if the heat gets too much for you.

      What a sad little "Christian" you have become, and especially by claiming that this bizarre blog is your main work in the kingdom of Christ. How deluded you have become.

      I see another spiritual breakdown, or was it an emotional breakdown coming on again if you carry on this way?

      Afraid to go out, afraid of "large" church numbers, hiding away behind your computer, and letting your wife drive you as you deliver take-away meals as you cannot drive yourself. What sort of a man are you Rob?

      You are certainly in need of prayer, so all of you supporters of Mr Thomas on this site get on your knees for him right away, for he surely needs it.

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    3. You don't reveal your name. You don't reveal where you live. You don't reveal where you "go to church."

      What you do reveal, however, is the darkness of your own heart and the spirit you channel.

      I know that those who support this work intercede for me; I hope that they will pray for you too, that in the grace of God you will find deliverance.

      In Jesus' Name,
      Rob.

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    4. This sad individual needs immediate deliverance Rob.
      The hatred eminating from this lost soul is palpable.I pray they find deliverance urgently before they become consumed by their tormenting spirit.

      Rob, your a true servant of Christ and your conducting yourself in a exemplory Spiritual manner, dignified and without malice or hatred. Well done, you are in our prayers you have MANY Supporters. God is with you.

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    5. Many thanks my friend for these generous words of support and encouragement!

      And thank you also for praying for this individual, whose desperate need of deliverance is all too plain to perceive!

      With very best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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    6. Rob, Thank you for creating this bizarre blog, as anonymous 10:44 called it. The same anon above stated you let any Tom, Dick or Harry post on this blog, well I hope that doesn't exclude me, because my name is Lila. When I read your insightful blog, I always come away feeling, this person named Rob,knows the Lord Jesus personally,as I do, and I can learn from him. Thank you, for your ministry. I pray God will continue to use you, as a light shining in the darkness of this world. And thank you for the sincerity in the way you bid everyone goodbye, right before you sign your name. Whether friend or foe,because God's children do have foes. You also seem to practice the biblical teaching, "bless those who persecute you,and pray for those who despitefully use you. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

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    7. Hi Lila!

      Many thanks for writing in; I really appreciate your kindness in voicing your support for this work. Such messages as yours are a great comfort and encouragement to me, in the face of the malicious opposition and character-assassination I encounter, such as that evidenced above.

      With very best wishes in Jesus, our soon returning Lord,
      Rob.

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  18. Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
    A difficult verse some.

    I can understand why people may not wish to join a fellowship or re-commit to a fellowship, and I’m sure you have your reasons. Some may find it difficult to commit to a church for varying reasons, so I’m not going to criticize you too much.
    It’s between you and the Lord, but it is both our loss and a loss to the body Rob.

    This does have a bearing on the topic or posting in an indirect way.
    Many people have been hurt and damaged spiritually by a couple of hyper charismatic churches in the South East Wales area I can think of.
    False teachings and false healings and rubbish.
    They claim speaking in tongues, gibberish more like.

    It may take time, but people begin to see through the hype after time,
    and that’s when the damage is done. Some leave the faith never to return others move on, but the scars never really heal.

    And before any stupid Pentecostal or Charismatic comes out with some crappy statement, ‘you sound like you have been hurt in the past and sound bitter’ – No I have seen the consequences of your handy work, people have been left spiritually incapacitated.

    Therefore, put your trust in the Lord first to last and his word only.

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    1. Hi, and thank you for this thoughtful comment!

      There are others I know, who have either dropped out of fellowship completely (for sound reasons, though remaining faithful to the Lord) or else - as in my own case - meet up with people who they can trust in private homes. A Scriptural assembly is, after all, just two or three believers coming together. (Matthew 18:20).

      The time is fast coming when only the liberal men-pleasing "churches" with their ecumenical Jesus, all-inclusive gospel, and counterfeit Spirit will remain open; any salt that has not lost its savour will form the underground Remnant. The Church at the End will be as it was at the beginning.

      On a personal note, God will of course search my heart for any harboured bitterness, but I believe that bad experience has worked for ultimate good in His wonderful grace, undoubtedly having its part in shaping my resolve to test everything by His Word, and to contend for the Faith as earnestly as I can in exposing the darkness of apostasy to the Light.

      I absolutely echo your conclusion: PUT YOUR TRUST IN THE LORD FIRST TO LAST, AND HIS WORD ONLY!

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  19. Glad to hear you are faithful still to the Lord.
    It would be quiet easy to criticize you with regard to this.
    However, I can understand how ‘’ as in my own case - meet up with people who they can trust in private homes.’’ which is still biblical. It is also ironic because many churches are birthed this way, which is also the biblical model for church planting. Unlike, a pastor and a few buddies (yes men) get in a car and drive around looking for a place that takes their fancy.

    Therefore, "Come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you."
    Another difficult verse for some Rob.
    I know some good Plymouth brethren and exclusive brethren, it deepens how far do you go with this verse?

    I try to imagine certain charismatic pastors preaching in an exclusive brethren church, what would they make of them?

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  20. Forgot to say also Rob, I like this prophetic statement.
    ‘’The time is fast coming when only the liberal men-pleasing "churches" with their ecumenical Jesus, all-inclusive gospel, and counterfeit Spirit will remain open; any salt that has not lost its savour will form the underground Remnant. The Church at the End will be as it was at the beginning.
    Very true words Rob.
    Perhaps the church has some learning to do from the Chinese church so it can prepare for a possible future in the UK.

    Will hyper charismatic churches in Cwmbran and Merthyr at the next alter call say.
    Come forward and receive Jesus.
    You will be mocked and laughed at, your friends and family may think your mad.
    Plus, it is now illegal to read the bible or be a bible believing Christian.
    So, please come forward and loss everything.

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    1. Many thanks for your further 2-part comment!

      I believe this is going to be an increasingly testing time for Christians in a Church that is racing ever further into apostasy, like lemmings to the cliff-edge. We in the West would do well, as you say, to learn from the church in China. It really is only a matter of time before their experience will become ours also.

      The easy-believism "altar calls" of the hyper-Charismatics will inevitably bring forth "stony place" converts, of the kind that Jesus spoke of in the parable of the sower and the seed:

      "But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it. Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended." (Matthew 13:20-21).

      A true disciple has to pick up his or her own cross, and die to self. You won't hear that being preached very much today!

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  21. So it seems some would say it is better to fellowship with apostasy as that is in church than come out of her and be separate speaking Truth. It's a good job that the Lord doesn't say that we will be judged on whether we attend church or not, but by our heart and deeds in His name.

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    1. Indeed so, Ceri, indeed so!

      Interesting that just like the previous correspondent, you should make reference to 2 Corinthians 6:17; those slumbering in the pews (or more likely comfortable chairs these days) would do very well to have this verse brought to their attention!

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  22. Keep up the good work rob and ignore all the nonsense answer to God and nobody else. By the way to the person who says about your wife driving you around they have no idea the bereavemt your family has dealt with recently you think you know it all you dont have a clue. The reason you dont know is because rob and his family are nothing to do with you or your so called friends they have plenty of their own and certainly dont need you or yours

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    1. Many thanks for your kind words of encouragement!

      We do indeed have loyal and trustworthy friends, who sustain us through all trials in the natural and in the spiritual! And in everything in this life, the Lord is our immovable Rock! As it is written:

      "And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me." (2 Corinthians 12:9)

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  23. If Nev has washed his hands of you, why does he have your post on his blog, what is going on here?

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    1. I only wish I knew what's going on! I only know for sure that great mischief is afoot, and it comes from the Pit.

      I don't follow Nev's blog; I didn't know he'd re-posted anything I'd written about New Beginnings, but just found it after your heads-up. He didn't ask me for permission, and if he had I wouldn't have given it. Neville is a maverick who does as he pleases, endlessly re-posting the articles of others, and for very good reason I have long had no association with him. That's about all I can say on the matter.

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  24. We all know that Bullies are never rational. The bottom line is this. The individual in question loves to humiliate people. However, He fails woefully to disguise the fact that his comments are his alone. They all have the same theme, targeting Rob, wrongly for not attending church, for hiding himself and other disgusting personal attacks, so typicial of this individual. Compare if you will these recent comments above to the comments on Robs article dated Sept 17, article titled Identity Theft.
    see the similarities, see also the alleged comments from a John Whittle, who is currently incarcerated at HMP and has no legal access whatsoever, or right to the internet, let alone social media or blogs.
    See Prisoners rights and the relevent act or indeed contact HMP.
    This individual targeting Rob is adept at subtefuge and using the anon facility in-order to impersonate others. Please google Ziontalywain Blog to see evidence. Rob, you are doing the right thing by cutting this person off, block his comments and file them in the trash.
    You are conducting yourself in a true and spiritual exemplory manner please do not get derailed by idiots.Contending for the faith one delivered is vital work.

    God is with you always.

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    1. Hi, and thank you for the thoughts and the information shared in this posting!

      I'll refrain from making a comment myself, but would simply say to anyone so interested to check this out for themselves and arrive at their own conclusion.

      Thank you also for your kind words of encouragement; I assuredly will not be derailed by the fiery darts coming my way - they just serve to reinforce my resolve to continue the work to which I have been called!

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  25. Yes your post has been used elswhere that just says it all it means someone cant write themselves so they have to steal others work God gave you his work to do and not this silly man who seeks to discredit you. Fight the good fight and keep up the work you have been chosen to do if you had no opposition that would mean you had nothing valid to say.God bless you and your family.

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    1. Many thanks for your support!

      When we encounter opposition, it simply means that the Enemy's cage is being rattled, thanks be to God! Darkness just hates being exposed to the light. The lack of opposition means that Satan is unconcerned about us; let us make sure that he is very seriously troubled by what we do!!

      With best wishes in Jesus our Lord,
      Rob.

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  26. Hi Rob,

    Good work exposing the false teachers and heretics of our day.

    Keep doing what you are doing!

    Bless you

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    1. Hi, and many thanks for your kind words of support and encouragement for this work. It is very much appreciated!

      With best wishes in Him,
      Rob.

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  27. Thank you, this is very interesting . 👍🏼

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  28. Thank you for commenting! Glad you found the article of interest; I appreciate the encouragement!

    Best wishes in Him,
    Rob.

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