www.victorychurch.co.uk/watch-the-welsh-outpouring-documentary
STOP PRESS: IN THE TIME BETWEEN RECEIVING THIS LINK YESTERDAY, WATCHING THE VIDEO AND MAKING NOTES, AND FINISHING THIS ARTICLE TODAY, THIS VIDEO HAS AMAZINGLY BEEN REMOVED FROM THE VICTORY WEBSITE. TOO LATE, VICTORY! THE WORDS OF TAYLOR AND PARSONS CONCERNING THEIR "PROPHECY" HAVE ALREADY BEEN TRANSCRIBED AND APPEAR BELOW!
"Half way through the message he says that he realised he had "Hidden Hatred in his heart and has since repented of it regarding certain peoples. So I just wondered what we were listening too and his Church members, prior to his repenting? please tell me how you Mr Taylor an Annointed and appointed man of God as you say you are, can have hidden hatred in his heart? Please listen to your Own Words on the interview on UCB, these are not my words.."STOP PRESS: IN THE TIME BETWEEN RECEIVING THIS LINK YESTERDAY, WATCHING THE VIDEO AND MAKING NOTES, AND FINISHING THIS ARTICLE TODAY, THIS VIDEO HAS AMAZINGLY BEEN REMOVED FROM THE VICTORY WEBSITE. TOO LATE, VICTORY! THE WORDS OF TAYLOR AND PARSONS CONCERNING THEIR "PROPHECY" HAVE ALREADY BEEN TRANSCRIBED AND APPEAR BELOW!
The correspondent who drew my attention to this, quite rightly had an important observation to make, which I reproduce here from the comments section elsewhere:
If this in itself was not sufficient food for thought, I want to look here at these men speaking about the origin of the "Welsh Outpouring" - using a transcript of their own words, so I'm not paraphrasing them:
Taylor: "The 'outpouring' really didn't begin on the 10th. of April with Paul's miracle, you know, when he got out of a wheelchair. It happened 17 years ago, and a lot of people have claimed prophetically to have prophesied about this revival, outpouring, whatever people choose to call it. Well, actually, no-one can claim it except Jesus, 'cos He's the one who started it... it came from a prophetic word I had 17 years ago with my (pause) who's now my Executive Pastor Andrew Parsons. We were Bible College students together in Birmingham."
(As an aside, what exactly IS an Executive Pastor???)
Parsons: "We had such a presence of God for three hours... The Lord said, He said, I'm going to use you both in the future for a mighty move of the Spirit!"
Taylor: "I am going to use you both in revival, the likes of which the world has never seen before, and the eyes of the world will be upon it. And that was it."
OK. Let's examine these statements. The "prophecy" was given to EACH OTHER, not given by or witnessed apparently by anyone else! This is important. In an "ecstatic" state, they gave EACH OTHER a mutual "prophecy" with no one testifying to this "divine event" other than THEMSELVES! It was a SECRET "word" (when God does not act in SECRECY!)
Taylor's slant on this "prophecy" magnifies it into one of the greatest prophecies ever given to any man at any time in all history, claiming the Lord said that the "revival" that they would be used in would be one THE LIKES OF WHICH THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN BEFORE! Just think about the absolute enormity and the implications of that claim!
"We're gonna be BIG, Andrew! The BIGGEST!"
Day One of the "Outpouring" was marked by "Paul's miracle" as Taylor puts it. This Paul is one Paul Haynes, and as a number of people have testified, he was never actually confined to a wheelchair in the first place; his getting up out of it was thus no miracle at all! Most interestingly and revealingly, a recent article in "The Big Issue" (9/9/13) reported that Mr Haynes was not around to talk about his condition. Andrew Parsons bleated rather lamely that "Paul's unavailability is a matter of 'pastoral care' since he wants to carry on his new beginning in peace." Reader, draw your own conclusions...
I don't think I've ever come across a man who is so PROUD of his HUMILITY as Mr. Richard Taylor! And his "prophetic word" about Parsons and himself heading up a "revival the likes of which the world has never seen before" is just too, too much!!!
This unparalleled "revival" has now nose-dived down to 2 nights a week; as previously reported, the Victory team is TIRED, and "WE DON'T PRESUME THAT GOD CAN TURN UP EVERY SINGLE NIGHT!" (Richard Taylor's own words). This is the greatest revival the world has ever known???
FRIENDS, THE "PROPHECY" AND ITS "FULFILLMENT" SPRANG FROM THE SELF-SEEKING WILL OF MAN NOT GOD, FUELLED BY HEIGHTENED EMOTIONS IN A HIGHLY-CHARGED AND CAREFULLY ORCHESTRATED ATMOSPHERE OF EXPECTATION OF SIGNS AND WONDERS. LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU THAT IT IS OTHERWISE!!!
Many and varied are the very real concerns that have been voiced about this purported move of the Spirit and its leaders, by watchmen and women AND their correspondents! Evidence has been presented, and testimonies given. Many people have been lastingly damaged, offended and deeply hurt by the happenings at the Cwmbran Campus, and the behaviour of its leaders. This is FACT, not conjecture! (As I've mentioned before, which I think bears repeating, one of the meanings of the Latin word 'campus' is THEATRE!) These outcomes in no way tie in with the fruit of the Spirit as outlined in Galatians 5:22-23. Love? Joy? Peace? Gentleness? Goodness? Meekness? The absence of such fruit in so many cases truly speaks volumes for the authenticity of the "Outpouring!" The greatest revival ever known???
Yesterday (24/9/13) Victory posted a sermon by Richard Taylor, entitled "Authority Against the Conspirers." (I think he meant conspirators):
That Mr. Taylor finds a need to slur, ridicule and castigate the watchmen and their work, it can only be that he is not as unconcerned about them as he makes himself out to be. He may have been laughing loudly in the pulpit when making this recording, but it was very, very forced... and every bit as false as the movement he leads!
FRIENDS, THE "PROPHECY" AND ITS "FULFILLMENT" SPRANG FROM THE SELF-SEEKING WILL OF MAN NOT GOD, FUELLED BY HEIGHTENED EMOTIONS IN A HIGHLY-CHARGED AND CAREFULLY ORCHESTRATED ATMOSPHERE OF EXPECTATION OF SIGNS AND WONDERS. LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU THAT IT IS OTHERWISE!!!
Many and varied are the very real concerns that have been voiced about this purported move of the Spirit and its leaders, by watchmen and women AND their correspondents! Evidence has been presented, and testimonies given. Many people have been lastingly damaged, offended and deeply hurt by the happenings at the Cwmbran Campus, and the behaviour of its leaders. This is FACT, not conjecture! (As I've mentioned before, which I think bears repeating, one of the meanings of the Latin word 'campus' is THEATRE!) These outcomes in no way tie in with the fruit of the Spirit as outlined in Galatians 5:22-23. Love? Joy? Peace? Gentleness? Goodness? Meekness? The absence of such fruit in so many cases truly speaks volumes for the authenticity of the "Outpouring!" The greatest revival ever known???
Yesterday (24/9/13) Victory posted a sermon by Richard Taylor, entitled "Authority Against the Conspirers." (I think he meant conspirators):
I have to say that this supposedly greatly anointed and appointed 'man of God' just makes me feel sick to the very pit of my stomach! I quite struggle to find the words that will adequately describe the depth of Richard Taylor's deceits! Using a false exegesis of Psalm 2, he turns everything upside down. It is not him, but the watchmen and women who are deceived, it is we who do the Enemy's work, we who conspire against the Church...
And this is coming from a man who is a great friend and/or fan of some of the greatest false teachers and deceivers on the face of the planet e.g. Tenney, Engle, Osteen, Warren, Bonnke... a man whose "Outpouring" was kicked off with a 'lying wonder' - the supposed healing of a man who got out of the wheelchair that he was never confined to in the first place!
And as for anyone who dares to ask awkward questions? Well, as Richard Taylor sneers, "We're going to laugh and keep going!" (And perhaps a few anonymous threats along the way wouldn't be such a bad idea?)
This is warfare indeed; the turning of things completely upside down by a shady and quite shameless showman, who's skilled at working the crowds! This is what it means to follow Jude's urging to "earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints!" (Jude v3). For it is an alien and false NEW faith which is now being delivered by the brazen likes of Mr. Taylor and Mr. Parsons, in imitation of their heroes (who we could much more correctly call villains!)
Robert King, host of Todd Bentley and pastor of nearby Freedom Church (previously known as Two Locks), has testified of the "Outpouring" that it can be traced back to Rodney Howard-Browne, Randy Clark and the Toronto Blessing. Which, of course, is really a most terrible CURSE - the underlying, lying, counterfeit spirit behind it all being not the Holy Spirit but KUNDALINI.
That Mr. Taylor finds a need to slur, ridicule and castigate the watchmen and their work, it can only be that he is not as unconcerned about them as he makes himself out to be. He may have been laughing loudly in the pulpit when making this recording, but it was very, very forced... and every bit as false as the movement he leads!
"A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land: The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?"
(Jeremiah 5:30-31).
I am extremely grateful for the courage and integrity of my concerned correspondents who brought these links to my attention. Indeed, my heartfelt thanks go to everyone who has brought their experiences, observations and support to this most important of debates. Your input has been invaluable; your encouragement incalculable! Rob.